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Post by expat on Jan 4, 2015 12:41:07 GMT
With there being no BRC this year, are there any events in the UK where you can make your own pacenotes? If there are, do any of these allow 4WD cars like Mitsubishis 6 Subarus?
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Post by Rallynavigator on Jan 5, 2015 0:44:00 GMT
The only events left now as I believe is the IoM Rallies. With the possibility of open road events within the UK, who knows what format these will take
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Post by expat on Jan 5, 2015 13:20:24 GMT
That's a sad state of affairs. Difficult for UK crews to get the experience they need to effectively compete abroad, and less and less likely that crews from abroad will compete in the UK. I know one driver who occasionally suggests we find a UK event to do but there just aren't suitable events on the calendar.
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Post by Rallynavigator on Jan 5, 2015 15:41:21 GMT
Take a look at Rally Calender by itsmymotorsport.co.uk they have a lot of events on there calendar. What do you want from your events. Value for money no doubt, enjoyment etc
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Post by expat on Jan 5, 2015 17:59:59 GMT
I guess you mean itsmymotorsport.co.uk which certainly looks a useful site. I'll browse around there more later. Thanks for that.
The sort of event we would be looking for would be: - Gravel / forestry - Pace notes with a recce to make our own notes - At least 80-100 km stages & the more the better - Able to run a Gp N Evo or similar
That's about it as far as clear requirements. Value is highly subjective and anyway the entry fee becomes a minor issue compared to the cost of getting the team to the UK. Enjoyment is also difficult to predict ahead of time but maybe a well-supported event with a good entry is a good indicator.
Any ideas?
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Post by Rallynavigator on Jan 5, 2015 20:49:57 GMT
Sorry for the link fault.
As for what you are looking for I cant help or think of any event that would meet your requirements. If such a event was available I feel the entry level would be over subscribed without a doubt. The Manx is the only one but being Tarmac would not suit you.
Is there no French / Belgium events that would cover your criteria.
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Post by expat on Jan 5, 2015 22:11:05 GMT
Yes. We can (and do) find events like this in other countries, but being a British co-driver abroad I get asked about doing events in the UK. It would be nice if there were events worth the trip.
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Post by Rallynavigator on Jan 5, 2015 23:12:27 GMT
Rally GB is the only one then I can think of
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Post by expat on Jan 6, 2015 7:29:04 GMT
OK, that confirms my findings. Such a shame. From the outside looking in it seems that rallying in the UK gets increasingly out of step with the rest of Europe and I doubt that we are the only potential competitors who are driven away by that. In theory it would be possible to do Rally GB. I usually get at least 1 driver discussing the possibility each year, but typically they don't have the budget left for a WRC round at the end of the season. Such is life.
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Post by Rallynavigator on Jan 7, 2015 0:43:08 GMT
The French Terre Championship? i can't comment on the stages would these suite? Championship
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Post by expat on Jan 7, 2015 7:06:09 GMT
We have competed in France before now, and the stages have been fine.
The problem isn't trying to find events. We can always find event to do in other countries. My question was specifically about events in the UK because I do get drivers asking about that. I think a surprising number of foreigners hold UK rallying in high regard because of how good it was in days gone by. They don't realise how things have changed, and that nowadays there is basically no UK support for the type of rallying that we are used to elsewhere.
I wonder if this works both ways? Maybe a lot of people in the UK don't understand the problem. The proliferation of single venue events, the lack of support for international classes, no events where you can recce, very short events, events where 4WD is not allowed, different technical regs (especially for historics) ... the list goes on. The result is that rallying in the UK is very different to elsewhere and even foreign crews who are interested in competing in the UK find it difficult or impossible.
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Post by Rallynavigator on Jan 8, 2015 3:55:02 GMT
You have just described I personally feel the true feeling of the British Rallying competitor. There must be frustration amongst this community as well. The same Championships, events formats, stages. The "Dukeries Rally" for instance a nice event to do stages are ok, was in talks with councils and forestry commissions and it was decided that it would no longer be viable. The event now carry's on but as a single venue at Donnington park. Yet another event lost to be replaced by a mickey mouse event
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